>> Then most of the Namek series is spent with him and Krillin, and it really seems like his story until Goku shows up. Ultimate Gohan, should be able to take either one on his own based on power alone. Gohan on the other hand, became strongest in the universe just be sitting for 25 hours, that's fucking bull yo. If Gohan beat buu it would have kept us from some of the best dialogue in the series and it wouldn't have put a neat finish to Goku and Vegetas relationship. Fat Buu and Evil Buu literally solos team 1 and easily beat Vegeta. Super Buu goads Goten and Trunks into fusing once again so they can finish off their previous battle. There was a very interesting growth and perspective for Goku leaving it to the next generation. Gohan did in fact defeat Buu, and you know who else did? As for Gohan, I don't think him winning after his Elder Kai power up would've been... representative of the series, I guess? Everything afterward just feels tacked on. re: Ultimate Gohan vs Super Saiyan 4 Vegeta (Buu Saga) I say that SSJ4 vegeta win, when vegeta turns into oozaru that is a 10x there, then SSJ1 which is a 50x on top of that. Reply. Iam simply not buying it that Buu saga ssj1 Vegeta couldn't even marginally surpass CG ssj1 Gohan after 7 years of training, doesn't matter if Toriyama hated Vegeta that much at that time or not. It was huge for Vegeta and Goku to work together like that and for Vegeta to finally come to terms with the gap between him and Goku. Also it was stated somewhere that Gohan was the strongest non-fused guy by the end of DBZ (interview or something) level 2. He got his first hack on Namek from Guru and got an exponential power raise. Ultimate Gohan should have been the … It doesn't really seem like screwing around to me. 5:09. There is no doubt that Gohan with the Elder Kai Unlocked Ability can manhandle Kid Buu for the whole match, but the only way he could be killed was by using 100% positive energy from life. Later Gohan ends up training at the Kai Realm and mastering the Z-sword. One of the first things he says in DBZ is "I want to be a great Scholar." SSJ3 Goku was about equal to Fat Buu. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I was unconscious when that happened, so I couldn't help at all!" Gohan would stomp Kid Buu since he was able to stomp Super Buu who is stronger than Kid Buu. Ultimate Gohan was stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks, who fought Super Buu, and Goku said he couldnt beat Super Buu. Would be a good ending for him. Gohan? Gohan is definitely very confident in this fight. I'm also sad how Gohan's character got so badly derailed (moreso in the new movies than the original manga). 16 at the hands of the bio-engineered monstrosity, Cell. Powers and Stats. EverlastingDarkness5 May 4, 2019 "You're not paying attention to my moves. Majin Buu hadn't shown up yet, and they had NO idea what was going to happen next. Toriyama said that he wanted to make Gohan the main character but that he was unsuited for the role. When you really think about it Gohan's got a horrible enough record as is. I believe that was AT's plan for Gohan as well but he decided to not go through with it last second, probably because Gohan wasn't as popular by then (explains why Vegeta gets bumped up to MC status and somehow becoming Goku's equal in the new movies, when he was always inferior to Goku in the manga). "G… Gohan?" He takes on a mentor role. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, A subreddit for all things Dragon Ball! Gohan Vs. Super Buu [Audio Latino] (HD 1080p) Pt.1 - YouTube Super Buu (Gotenks Absorbed) dominated Ultimate Gohan. Gohan winning continues the Cell saga narrative of son surpassing the father, while Goku winning marks the return of the hero of the series. Gotenks would've signified the next generation taking up the torch, as Gohan did in the Cell saga and as Goku intended Gotenks to. Remember what Goku said about no one being able to beat him? When he lets himself be found, Gohan says that he'll kill him this time. From this point on, even though the training is really silly, Gohan's training is reminiscent of Goku's training with King Kai. Also it was stated somewhere that Gohan was the strongest non-fused guy by the end of DBZ (interview or something) level 2. No, but he should not have had that arc with the Z-sword and the Kais, either, which made us think he was going to be the one. Gohan is the protagonist of the Buu saga pretty much until the moment he is absorbed, Toriyama changed his mind really late in the game. Gohan and Vegeta are dead, Majin Buu killed them both. Gohan, despite all of his strength was defeated and killed. Now, this is Gohan at his best. Buu blows himself up just three pages later. Before that you pretty much get beaten over the idea with the idea that Gohan is the last hope and the strongest in the universe. With the final push being Goku who supported the attack in the end. For Dragon Ball Z: Ultimate Tenkaichi on the PlayStation 3, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Mystic/Ultimate Gohan Vs Kid Buu" - Page 2. That's pretty cool. It can't be! DragonFighter64 May 5, 2019. buu: "te voy a tocar la jalea" Reply. DangerAinger. Her eyes widened in shock at this news and the sight above her as Gohan landed in front of Buu, much like Goku did with Vegeta and Nappa, the Ginyu Force and Frieza years ago. Android 17, Nam, Roshi, Hercule Satan, Tien, Chi Chi, etc. It would have left a rather bitter taste in my mouth if that was how the final villain of DBZ was beaten, because the slacker got lucky and had someone else bring out his potential for him. In the beginning, Supreme Kai says that Gohan may be their best hope which to me looked like he was foreshadowing Gohan being the one to kill Majin Buu. Personally, as much as I love Ultimate Gohan, I would probably hate it if he was the one who beat Buu. Tori got lazy in the Buu Saga same thing Toei did for Gohan in M10 many people think that it was SSJ1 Gohan vs LSSJ Broly but it was obviously SSJ2 SSJ1 Gohan has this hairtstyle SSJ2 Gohan has spikier hair and only one longer bang across his forehead it was SSJ2 against Dabura and flutterdupe this thread is really dumb Vegeta gets decked, casually Gohan was the POV character during that time, and something like that never happened up until then. At least he's learnt now. The dude that literally sat on his ass the whole time had his beat down coming. Damn, never thought of Buu being the opposite of Goku like that. Ultimate Gohan (Buu Saga) VS Kid Buu Dragon Ball - General This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. Kid Buu]] Okay, its been awhile since Ive thought of a topic to throw at my fellow DB heads so bare with me, but I think this is a lengthy topic. It doesn't really seem like screwing around to me. By daimaoha5a4 Watch. Gohan didn't "earn" much of his power at all in the entire series. Don't even get me started when he told me cell (his first form) was real and he was looking for me. I feel like Gohan was the intended hero and then was tossed aside towards the mid-end of the saga. I do not even acknowledge that it was Goku who beat Buu. That's true he should have learnt after the boo arc that he should be training. Seriously it feels like the choice wasn't even made until he had started writing Gohan vs Super Buu, the farewell between Gohan and Goku on the Kai's world has a total sense of finality to it. Buu blows himself up just three pages later. Reply. Reply. Next, Goku squares off against Majin Vegeta while he tells Gohan to face the main threat: Babidi, Dabura, and Majin Buu. Scrap that because it's a tease that literally pissed people off with the bait and switch. discord.gg/dbz, Press J to jump to the feed. And after all that he still learned nothing, ended up losing most his power and getting mauled by a first form, sitting in his Floaty McFloatface chair Freeza. “Original Buu” or “Pure Buu”. There is no doubt that Gohan with the Elder Kai Unlocked Ability can manhandle Kid Buu for the whole match, but the only way he could be killed was by using 100% positive energy from life. Separating Gohan watches as Vegeta kicks Majin Buu in the face in his ascended state and begins his own fight. It kinda terrified me as a kid. No. So Gohan was deemed unfit for the role as main character. The Great Saiyaman arc is a light hearted (and I think fun) way of letting the viewer know that this is character we are following. The problem is, nothing really seemed to affect Buu’s power level. SSJ Goku vs Majin Vegeta, Gohan and Kaioshin try to stop Bobbidi, Majin Buu revived (English Dub) Fight Like Goku. Vegeta getting the kill with his Final Explosion would've made his character development leading up to that, brilliant as it was, even better. Yeah it was nice to get him finally admitting that Goku is just naturally a superior fighter and getting over that hangup but it wasn't necessarily. Edit: Added a bit more context to the spoiler. I really felt like Gohan's character shouldn't have been written to be so academic-centric when he became an adult and he should've been the one to carry Goku's torch as the main hero. 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10:57. No one..." Goku knows this up to Gohan and as awesome as it was Goku vs Vegeta is a side fight. Besides Buu is practically the antithesis to Goku being a creature who repeatedly steals the power of others as opposed to working for it which is why it was so surprising that his pure form was so absurdly powerful and talented so, really he was the perfect villain for Goku to beat(especially using a technique where people volunteered their energy to him as opposed to him just outright stealing it). Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. To the point where he basically chooses not to defeat Buu so Earth is not "relying on some old hero from the history books." The opening and ending are a big part of it but if you look at the story as a whole up until he is defeated by Buutenks, it is definitely focused around him. After that everyone besides the Kais and Videl, Erasa, Sharpener, and Pencil; the last three because they knew Gohan was the Great Saiyaman and the Golden Fighter, laughed even some of the teachers couldn't help but chuckled. Gohan fights Kid Buu and everyone on earth can watch the fight on the Sacred World of the Kais Rated: Fiction T - English - Humor/Adventure - Gohan, Videl - Chapters: 12 - Words: 18,940 - Reviews: 204 - Favs: 239 - Follows: 264 - Updated: 5/27/2013 - Published: 11/23/2011 - id: 7577518 He's still not weak by any means, Resurrection F spoiler, but he may never reach his full potential as a fighter, which is a realistic situation. Goku and Vegeta spent their time getting stronger, even Mr. Satan stayed in shape over the 7 years. Goku also says something here which I think is key it goes something like, "Get angry Gohan, like you did against Cell. Nobody before Goku has survived it. Gohan was the only Saiyan in the entire series to train for the sole purpose of helping people and understand the true gravity of the situations he was facing. Vegeta blowing him up, Gotenks burning him, Goku fighting him. 12:56. [[Category:{{{1}}}|SSJ3 Gotenks and Gohan vs. Dragon Ball Xenoverse - Ultimate Gohan vs Super Buu, SSJ2 Gohan vs Cell, Vegito vs Buu Gameplay. Raw power wise, “word of god” (Toriyama) says Gohan is the strongest unfused character by the end of the series. Now, SSJ3 Gotenks and Gohan, tag-teaming Kid Buu on the Sacred World of the Kais. IMO, for the ending it would have been nice for Gohan to break his Z-sword during the battle with Majin Buu and then unlock a lot (but not all) of his power after honing the Z-sword which would then make him just strong enough to kill Buu thus giving the arc a dramatic ending. I mean yes, i love Goku, he's the best, but still. Why else would all the Great Saiyaman stuff exist? Gohan, despite all of his strength was defeated and killed. 1 Manga 2 Anime 2.1 Dragon Ball Z 2.2 Dragon Ball Super 2.3 Dragon Ball GT 3 Films 3.1 Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans 3.2 Dead Zone 3.3 World's Strongest 3.4 The Tree of Might 3.5 Lord Slug 3.6 Cooler's Revenge 3.7 The Return of Cooler 3.8 Super Android 13! Summary. An episode of fame, then nothing? Yes, Gohan slacked off, that was a mistake of him (he himself was constantly regretting that he let himself lose so much power) and he was supposed to get redemption later on. During the Cell Games, young Son Gohan witnessed the death of a soft-spoken, gentle android known as No. It makes sense that the season would be exclusively about Gohan fighting as the protagonist, as Goku did before. Gohan hits Buu twice, catches a punch, hits him three more times which launches Buu in the air, then punches him down to the ground. I keep thinking about it, and the more I do, the more I feel that isn't.. Turning back to the situation at hand Gohan reaches his father and Hercule in a minuscule amount of time, and picking up Hercule and the puppy he places them on top of the cliff so they wont fall before walking towards his father. Gohan Vs Buutenks Shintani. Either are good. He tells Gohanthat ever since he felt his power from afar he pla… Before that you pretty much get beaten over the idea with the idea that Gohan is the last hope and the strongest in the … Most other power boosts are gained by hard work or occasionally teamwork (mostly fusion, here), whereas Gohan just kind of... got power. All of Goku's choices, everything he says to Gohan, teaching the kids fusion, amounts to nothing at the end of the saga. And Vegeta? Piccolo even gets to comment on this. HOW BUU SUPPOSED TO LIVE UP TO BODY IMAGE IN MAGAZINE?! Lmao. Especially with him arriving on the scene in the nick of time. And it struck me how lame it is that they set up this epic fight, and then it isn't the end. If you get angry no one in the world can beat you. Dragon Ball Xenoverse : GOHAN Y GOTENKS VS MAJIN BUU Y SUPER BUU - La Posesion Por Sorpresa ! The dude that literally sat on his ass the whole time had his beat down coming. However, Super Janemba has been stated to be tougher than even him, meaing that Janemba could defeat Ultimate Gohan. Dragon Ball Xenoverse : GOHAN Y GOTENKS VS MAJIN BUU Y SUPER BUU - La Posesion Por Sorpresa ! He didn't sit on his ass, he became a scholar and was a teenager with raging hormones for Videl. In Wrath of the Dragon, Hirudegarn also defeats Ultimate Gohan. He sat on his ass for 7 years, got whopped, sat on his ass for a day, then became the strongest unfused character of Z. Screw that. Goku and Vegeta spent their time getting stronger, even Mr. Satan stayed in shape over the 7 years. For the first time in his life Gohan is confident of his power and not afraid that he is too weak or too strong (Cell Games.) Even the most ass pull power up Goku got from the Ultra divine water needed intense concentration and vitality to overcome while Gohan literally just sat there. Gangusbentek. and I just got to the ultimate gohan episodes. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, A subreddit for all things Dragon Ball! Then look at the Tournament, still very Gohan-centric as the bad guys are trying to get his energy. discord.gg/dbz, Press J to jump to the feed. When he lets himself be found, Gohan says that he'll kill him this time. This also means Super Janemba is at least equal to Super Buu with Gotenks absorbed. I feel like Gohan would have been the main character if it weren't for Goku's popularity. daimaoha5a4 May 5, 2019. Everyone put their effort in that attack and thus everyone managed to beat Buu! Meanwhile two clumps of his back slide down unnoticed by the rest and advance through the the rocks and toward Piccolo and Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks. The question was when Toriyama changed his mind in making Gohan the protagonist. 1 Match Dialogues 1.1 Sparking 1.2 Team Dialogues 1.3 Match Reset 1.4 Shenron 2 Miscellaneous Dialogues 2.1 Character Selection 2.2 Intro 2.3 Victory 2.4 Defeat 2.5 Results Screen 3 Navigation An asterisk (*) means there's two different lines associated with that character. Lmao. Goku doing it fits because he's the main character and the Spirit Bomb worked well to round out the series. Even if you look at Goku's involvement in the saga it doesn't make sense. SSJ Goku vs Majin Vegeta, Gohan and Kaioshin try to stop Bobbidi, Majin Buu revived (English Dub) Fight Like Goku. Gohan WAS going to be the protagonist, at least at the beginning. It's pretty damn perfect. Gohan hits Buu twice, catches a punch, hits him three more times which launches Buu in the air, then punches him down to the ground. Then he got a third and final hack from Old Kai to become stronger than SSJ3. This is that Gohan, all his latent power unlocked at once, without the anger, this is everything Gohan has been building up to from the beginning where Piccolo starts teaching him to control his power. I guess Toriyama felt that it wouldn't be a dramatic ending if Gohan killed Buu after unlocking his power because unlike Goku and Vegeta, beating Kid Buu would be like child's play to him. Turning back to the situation at hand Gohan reaches his father and Hercule in a minuscule amount of time, and picking up Hercule and the puppy he places them on top of the cliff so they wont fall before walking towards his father. This would include Kid Buu, a.k.a. Hell, the whole point of the final fight with Cell and the Father-son Kamehameha was that Goku was passing the torch to his son, declaring him the new protector of humanity. Gangusbentek. I agree, but one thing I would change is the whole Ultimate Gohan thing. And finally, after romping Super Buu, he gets beat up and eventually absorbed. Like there was no way anyone could defeat Buu. His second power hack was "unleashing his power" - AKA SSJ2. Toriyama has mentioned before that it was his plan for Gohan to be the main hero for the series after Goku's sacrifice, but felt that it wasn't in-character for Gohan to constantly train and eagerly get into fights with powerful opponents on a regular basis. It seems kind of stupid and irresponsible for him to just be like "I'm not even going to try and maintain my strength" and piss about for a decade. Gohan on the other hand, became strongest in the universe just be sitting for 25 hours, that's fucking bull yo. I know that's what he did in between Cell and Buu, but even then it felt weird that he had gotten weaker since he was a child. We all know somebody who is really gifted at something, but either out of laziness or just a lack of passion that they never really reach their full potential. No, the dude done nothing to deserve the win. He did great against Buu where Vegeta and Goku couldn't touch him. He then absorbs Gotenks and Piccolo and transformsinto a being with greater power and greater intelligence than before. Gohan didn't train for that power, he just had a crazy old man run around him for a day to "bring out his full potential". Gohan is definitely very confident in this fight. I mean, just look at the op and ed from that season, they both prominently focus on Gohan, not on Goku. There was also that Great Saiyaman stint where the focus of the story was on him and it showed him start training again. It's doubtful Vegeta had reached that level until he gained the Majin Boost. Then, the Cell saga is very much about him, and he has a heavy presence in the Buu arc. Not to mention the Ultra Divine Water has a high fatality rate. After When Buu revealed to show strategy and absorb Piccolo and Gotenks and finally Gohan, it really made things look bleak. Well, the reason the opening and ending feature Gohan prominently was because, when Toei made it, the manga was still in the world tournament. Reply. Similar to how Goku slacked off those four years before Raditz arrived, then dies, and returns back stronger than ever and beat the enemy. Vegeta tried to take Majin Buu with him and failed. I think whether Gohan finishes Buu in the final fight or Goku does it depends on which narrative in the anime you like more. I would absolutely love that final fate for Gohan that you mentioned. Separating Gohan watches as Vegeta kicks Majin Buu in the face in his ascended state and begins his own fight. Before that you pretty much get beaten over the idea with the idea that Gohan is the last hope and the strongest in the … It wasn't a clever twist when he got absorbed, it was an inevitable snarl in a very long term improvised story. Reply. Vegeta tried to take Majin Buu with him and failed. Writing shouldn't be based off who is most popular among the fanbase, Toryiama made a massive mistake, and basically threw away almost every theme and story point of the Buu saga when he made Goku the protagonist again at the last minute. Which still lead to believe Gohan is the strongest there (we find out this not true later but at this point we do not know Goku and Vegeta have SS2). It starts off with his introduction, he shows incredible power, and helps beat the first two "main" villains of the series. Lol. Only difference is that Kid Buu isn't as smart as Super Buu so he probably wouldn't think of using a little piece of himself to absorb Gohan from behind. ... Super Buu: Hey gohan Gohan: what Super Buu: DODGE! Vegeta's story was freaking finished, he had gone from a selfish cruel man who cared only about power to a man who sacrificed himself for his loved ones, he knows he's going to hell because of all the evil he's done, but he makes that ultimate act of selflessness anyway because in the end he had become a good man more or less. Zikten 8 years ago #1. Rewatching buu saga right now. SSJ2 Kid Gohan: 100 "The Old Benchmark" SSJ2 Vegeta: 80 Super Perfect Cell: 80 SSJ2 Teen Gohan: 66.6 SSJ Majin Vegeta: 55 FP Perfect Cell: 40 SSJ Vegeta: 40 Dabura: 38 SSJ Kid/Teen Gohan: 33.3 Cell Games Gohan was constantly used as a benchmark early Buu Arc by Piccolo and Vegeta. Gohan might not even enjoy fighting, but he's written as generally the smartest of the fighters, and the most naturally gifted. Gohan is the protagonist of the Buu saga pretty much until the moment he is absorbed, Toriyama changed his mind really late in the game. Kind of lame compared to Goku and Vegeta and even Trunks. daimaoha5a4 May 5, 2019. DragonFighter64 May 5, 2019. buu: "te voy a tocar la jalea" Reply. After Gohan's cocky ass got Goku killed during the Cell Games there's no way Gohan should have been giving the victory over Buu. When I rewatched it a few months ago for the first time since high school I laughed so hard at that part because of all the social justice stuff these days. Like, 'when he started stomping Super Buu' later. With Tenor, maker of GIF Keyboard, add popular Dbz Gohan Vs Buu animated GIFs to your conversations. The Supreme Kai still sees Gohan as the last hope now that Buu is released, so he brings him to his world. His future self couldn't save the Earth after over a decade and even during his one grand moment he nearly lost anyway until Goku intervened. I find it would have been anticlimactic for Gohan to kill Super Boo-boo. Yeah, it's rather spectacular how Toryiama's choice to make Goku the protagonist again pretty much completely invalidated most of the themes and points about generational change and stuff that had been presented in the Buu saga up until that point. After Gohan's cocky ass got Goku killed during the Cell Games there's no way Gohan should have been giving the victory over Buu. Tier: At least High 4-C, 4-B as a Super Saiyan | 4-B | 4-B. She turned to see if it was really him, her heart began beating fast as memories of learning about his supposed death flashed before her. While he may not be suitable to protect the Earth himself, he could give the Earth the knowledge to protect itself. The series should have ended with Ultimate Gohan vs Buu; User Info: Zikten. daimaoha5a4 May 5, 2019. Gohan is the protagonist of the Buu saga pretty much until the moment he is absorbed, Toriyama changed his mind really late in the game. Gohan and Vegeta are dead, Majin Buu killed them both. Ultimate Gohan was stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks, who fought Super Buu, and Goku said he couldnt beat Super Buu. But, yes. I genuinely feel like Gohan not taking on the responsibility was even more out of character. "Kibito Kai can you take me to the fight so I can help my dad and Vegeta fight Buu?" I didn't get to watch them on tv but my cousin was and still is big into DBZ so he showed me what happened at the end of the saga so I wouldn't be such as terrified. ... Super Buu: Hey gohan Gohan: what Super Buu: DODGE! 3.9 Broly - The Legendary Super Saiyan 3.10 Bojack Unbound 3.11 Broly - Second Coming 3.12 Fusion Reborn 3.13 Wrath of the Dragon 3.14 … Gotenks is the Metamoran fusion of Goten and Trunks, formed to defeat Majin Buu.. SSJ3 Goku was about equal to Fat Buu. Even the most ass pull power up Goku got from the Ultra divine water needed intense concentration and vitality to overcome while Gohan literally just sat there. I 100% agree. Also, the spirit bomb finally fucking worked, it made sense that such evil could only be expelled by such a move. I was unconscious when that happened, so I couldn't help at all!" Sure this lets us know that Goku and Vegeta have surpassed him, but it is still Gohan that fights him. daimaoha5a4 May 5, 2019. 16 at the hands of the bio-engineered monstrosity, Cell. EverlastingDarkness5 May 4, 2019 "You're not paying attention to my moves. In my opinion, it didn't happen until much later in the story. Right. Lol. Gohan Vs Buutenks Shintani. Goku ended it perfectly, he endorsed help from literally everybody on Earth with the power of Dragon Balls, I liked that he finished with what started the whole story. 10:57. Gohan fails again but the focus here is that he is the one trying. During the Cell Games, young Son Gohan witnessed the death of a soft-spoken, gentle android known as No. By daimaoha5a4 Watch. naruto. I like the way it panned out, Goku ended it with the help of everyone and worked alongside the Gods(Kais), The god or Earth(Dende), Vegeta and Mr Satan. SSJ 2 Kid Gohan, Bojack, and Super Perfect Cell Vs Fat Buu, Majin Vegeta, and Evil Buu ... and have a bit of trouble with Gohan. I remember being kinda dissapointed when i was a child when Goku came back and tossed aside Gohan to be the protagonist once more. For what? I would've liked Vegeta or Gotenks to do it, myself. Which makes a lot of sense with where the last arc left off but it officially lets you know that Gohan is taking on the lead role. Share the best GIFs now >>> Then most of the Namek series is spent with him and Krillin, and it really seems like his story until Goku shows up. Ultimate Gohan, should be able to take either one on his own based on power alone. Gohan on the other hand, became strongest in the universe just be sitting for 25 hours, that's fucking bull yo. If Gohan beat buu it would have kept us from some of the best dialogue in the series and it wouldn't have put a neat finish to Goku and Vegetas relationship. Fat Buu and Evil Buu literally solos team 1 and easily beat Vegeta. Super Buu goads Goten and Trunks into fusing once again so they can finish off their previous battle. There was a very interesting growth and perspective for Goku leaving it to the next generation. Gohan did in fact defeat Buu, and you know who else did? As for Gohan, I don't think him winning after his Elder Kai power up would've been... representative of the series, I guess? Everything afterward just feels tacked on. re: Ultimate Gohan vs Super Saiyan 4 Vegeta (Buu Saga) I say that SSJ4 vegeta win, when vegeta turns into oozaru that is a 10x there, then SSJ1 which is a 50x on top of that. Reply. Iam simply not buying it that Buu saga ssj1 Vegeta couldn't even marginally surpass CG ssj1 Gohan after 7 years of training, doesn't matter if Toriyama hated Vegeta that much at that time or not. It was huge for Vegeta and Goku to work together like that and for Vegeta to finally come to terms with the gap between him and Goku. Also it was stated somewhere that Gohan was the strongest non-fused guy by the end of DBZ (interview or something) level 2. He got his first hack on Namek from Guru and got an exponential power raise. Ultimate Gohan should have been the … It doesn't really seem like screwing around to me. 5:09. There is no doubt that Gohan with the Elder Kai Unlocked Ability can manhandle Kid Buu for the whole match, but the only way he could be killed was by using 100% positive energy from life. Later Gohan ends up training at the Kai Realm and mastering the Z-sword. One of the first things he says in DBZ is "I want to be a great Scholar." SSJ3 Goku was about equal to Fat Buu. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I was unconscious when that happened, so I couldn't help at all!" Gohan would stomp Kid Buu since he was able to stomp Super Buu who is stronger than Kid Buu. Ultimate Gohan was stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks, who fought Super Buu, and Goku said he couldnt beat Super Buu. Would be a good ending for him. Gohan? Gohan is definitely very confident in this fight. I'm also sad how Gohan's character got so badly derailed (moreso in the new movies than the original manga). 16 at the hands of the bio-engineered monstrosity, Cell. Powers and Stats. EverlastingDarkness5 May 4, 2019 "You're not paying attention to my moves. Majin Buu hadn't shown up yet, and they had NO idea what was going to happen next. Toriyama said that he wanted to make Gohan the main character but that he was unsuited for the role. When you really think about it Gohan's got a horrible enough record as is. I believe that was AT's plan for Gohan as well but he decided to not go through with it last second, probably because Gohan wasn't as popular by then (explains why Vegeta gets bumped up to MC status and somehow becoming Goku's equal in the new movies, when he was always inferior to Goku in the manga). "G… Gohan?" He takes on a mentor role. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, A subreddit for all things Dragon Ball! Gohan Vs. Super Buu [Audio Latino] (HD 1080p) Pt.1 - YouTube Super Buu (Gotenks Absorbed) dominated Ultimate Gohan. Gohan winning continues the Cell saga narrative of son surpassing the father, while Goku winning marks the return of the hero of the series. Gotenks would've signified the next generation taking up the torch, as Gohan did in the Cell saga and as Goku intended Gotenks to. Remember what Goku said about no one being able to beat him? When he lets himself be found, Gohan says that he'll kill him this time. From this point on, even though the training is really silly, Gohan's training is reminiscent of Goku's training with King Kai. Also it was stated somewhere that Gohan was the strongest non-fused guy by the end of DBZ (interview or something) level 2. No, but he should not have had that arc with the Z-sword and the Kais, either, which made us think he was going to be the one. Gohan is the protagonist of the Buu saga pretty much until the moment he is absorbed, Toriyama changed his mind really late in the game. Gohan and Vegeta are dead, Majin Buu killed them both. Gohan, despite all of his strength was defeated and killed. Now, this is Gohan at his best. Buu blows himself up just three pages later. Before that you pretty much get beaten over the idea with the idea that Gohan is the last hope and the strongest in the universe. With the final push being Goku who supported the attack in the end. For Dragon Ball Z: Ultimate Tenkaichi on the PlayStation 3, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Mystic/Ultimate Gohan Vs Kid Buu" - Page 2. That's pretty cool. It can't be! DragonFighter64 May 5, 2019. buu: "te voy a tocar la jalea" Reply. DangerAinger. Her eyes widened in shock at this news and the sight above her as Gohan landed in front of Buu, much like Goku did with Vegeta and Nappa, the Ginyu Force and Frieza years ago. Android 17, Nam, Roshi, Hercule Satan, Tien, Chi Chi, etc. It would have left a rather bitter taste in my mouth if that was how the final villain of DBZ was beaten, because the slacker got lucky and had someone else bring out his potential for him. In the beginning, Supreme Kai says that Gohan may be their best hope which to me looked like he was foreshadowing Gohan being the one to kill Majin Buu. Personally, as much as I love Ultimate Gohan, I would probably hate it if he was the one who beat Buu. Tori got lazy in the Buu Saga same thing Toei did for Gohan in M10 many people think that it was SSJ1 Gohan vs LSSJ Broly but it was obviously SSJ2 SSJ1 Gohan has this hairtstyle SSJ2 Gohan has spikier hair and only one longer bang across his forehead it was SSJ2 against Dabura and flutterdupe this thread is really dumb Vegeta gets decked, casually Gohan was the POV character during that time, and something like that never happened up until then. At least he's learnt now. The dude that literally sat on his ass the whole time had his beat down coming. Damn, never thought of Buu being the opposite of Goku like that. Ultimate Gohan (Buu Saga) VS Kid Buu Dragon Ball - General This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. Kid Buu]] Okay, its been awhile since Ive thought of a topic to throw at my fellow DB heads so bare with me, but I think this is a lengthy topic. It doesn't really seem like screwing around to me. By daimaoha5a4 Watch. Gohan didn't "earn" much of his power at all in the entire series. Don't even get me started when he told me cell (his first form) was real and he was looking for me. I feel like Gohan was the intended hero and then was tossed aside towards the mid-end of the saga. I do not even acknowledge that it was Goku who beat Buu. That's true he should have learnt after the boo arc that he should be training. Seriously it feels like the choice wasn't even made until he had started writing Gohan vs Super Buu, the farewell between Gohan and Goku on the Kai's world has a total sense of finality to it. Buu blows himself up just three pages later. Reply. Reply. Next, Goku squares off against Majin Vegeta while he tells Gohan to face the main threat: Babidi, Dabura, and Majin Buu. Scrap that because it's a tease that literally pissed people off with the bait and switch. discord.gg/dbz, Press J to jump to the feed. And after all that he still learned nothing, ended up losing most his power and getting mauled by a first form, sitting in his Floaty McFloatface chair Freeza. “Original Buu” or “Pure Buu”. There is no doubt that Gohan with the Elder Kai Unlocked Ability can manhandle Kid Buu for the whole match, but the only way he could be killed was by using 100% positive energy from life. Separating Gohan watches as Vegeta kicks Majin Buu in the face in his ascended state and begins his own fight. It kinda terrified me as a kid. No. So Gohan was deemed unfit for the role as main character. The Great Saiyaman arc is a light hearted (and I think fun) way of letting the viewer know that this is character we are following. The problem is, nothing really seemed to affect Buu’s power level. SSJ Goku vs Majin Vegeta, Gohan and Kaioshin try to stop Bobbidi, Majin Buu revived (English Dub) Fight Like Goku. Vegeta getting the kill with his Final Explosion would've made his character development leading up to that, brilliant as it was, even better. Yeah it was nice to get him finally admitting that Goku is just naturally a superior fighter and getting over that hangup but it wasn't necessarily. Edit: Added a bit more context to the spoiler. I really felt like Gohan's character shouldn't have been written to be so academic-centric when he became an adult and he should've been the one to carry Goku's torch as the main hero. I always thought that the entire series was supposed to be about Gohan. WHAT!? Well we still hadn't seen the limits of Goku's power, so that needed to happen at some point. What I hope for DBS would be Gohan's fate in DB Online, where he publishes a book explaining ki control, which would combine his years of training with his love of studying and gaining knowledge. My hierarchy would be Vegeta > Gotenks > Goku > Gohan. Goku deserved the win. Reply. 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